Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 106

02/14/2012 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES


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*+ HB 310 STATE IMMUNIZATION PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
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+= HB 209 INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR TOBACCO CESSATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
        HB 209-INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR TOBACCO CESSATION                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:07:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 209, "An Act  requiring a health care  insurer to                                                               
provide coverage for tobacco cessation treatment."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:08:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON,  introducing HB  209 as the  prime sponsor                                                               
of the bill,  emphasized that dependence on  tobacco was chronic,                                                               
and it  negatively affected the  health, productivity,  and well-                                                               
being of all Alaskans who indulged  in its use.  He reported that                                                               
tobacco  was a  leading cause  of death  for Alaskans,  more than                                                               
suicide, motor vehicle  crashes, and liver disease  combined.  He                                                               
added  that the  negative economic  impact was  huge, as  it cost                                                               
Alaskans more  than $300 million in  direct medical expenditures,                                                               
with  an  additional  $177  million in  lost  productivity.    He                                                               
declared "it's  a hard  habit to  kick."   He clarified  that the                                                               
proposed bill  offered Alaskans an opportunity  for the resources                                                               
to  end their  tobacco  addiction,  through cessation  treatments                                                               
offered  by  insurance  companies.    He  offered  to  listen  to                                                               
testimony whether to mandate this.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:11:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  expressed his  concern with  a mandate  for private                                                               
insurance.  He asked to  clarify that Representative Herron would                                                               
offer proposed HB  209 as an insurance policy option  to buy, not                                                               
as a mandated coverage.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:12:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON confirmed  that testimony  would determine                                                               
if it was  practical to delete "provide", and  insert "offer," in                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:12:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  asked if there  was other insurance  coverage which                                                               
had to be available, but was not mandated.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON replied that he would research this.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  offered his belief  that there was  other coverage,                                                               
and he expressed a desire to know how this had been received.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:13:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  directed attention  to the  proposed bill,                                                               
page 2, Section 1, subsection  (c)(3), which read:  "Coverage for                                                               
tobacco  cessation treatment  may  not require  an individual  to                                                               
participate in a counseling session  in order to receive coverage                                                               
for  medication;"  and  asked  for  clarification  with  page  1,                                                               
proposed  Section 1,  subsection (b)(1),  which read:   "coverage                                                               
for  a course  of tobacco  cessation treatment  must include  the                                                               
cost of not less than  four tobacco cessation counseling sessions                                                               
provided by a qualified counselor ...."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:14:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIZ  CLEMENTS, Staff,  Representative  Bob  Herron, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  replied   that  the  insurance  company   would  be                                                               
required to  cover at least  four counseling sessions  per course                                                               
of treatment, but  that individual consumers would  not be forced                                                               
to attend  counseling sessions  as a  condition of  the treatment                                                               
coverage.   She declared that  experience had shown  that success                                                               
was higher when  the participant was able to  determine "how they                                                               
choose to quit."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:18:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON, directing  attention to  page 1,  line 9,                                                               
proposed Section  1(b)(1), "not less than  four tobacco cessation                                                               
counseling sessions provided by  a qualified counselor," asked if                                                               
there  was  a  limit  to   the  number  of  counseling  sessions.                                                               
Directing  attention  to  proposed  Section  1(b)(2),  "over  the                                                               
counter  medication or  prescribed medication,"  he asked  if the                                                               
transition between  paragraphs (1) and  (2) was for  "and," "or,"                                                               
or "and/or."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:19:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLEMENTS,  in response to Representative  Seaton, agreed that                                                               
the  minimum number  of  counseling  sessions requiring  coverage                                                               
would  be four.   She  offered her  belief that  proposed HB  209                                                               
should include "and" between Section 1(b)(1) and (2).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:19:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  suggested a  similar  review  for the  transitions                                                               
between paragraphs  (1), (2),  (3), and  (4) of  proposed Section                                                               
1(c) as well.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  suggested   that  Legislative  Legal  and                                                               
Research Services be consulted.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:20:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON clarified  that  proposed HB  209 did  not                                                               
want to legislate over the counter medications.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:20:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER opened public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:21:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LOIS  KEITHLY, Director,  Massachusetts Tobacco  Control Program,                                                               
Surveillance  and Evaluation  Director, Tobacco  Control Program,                                                               
Massachusetts  Department of  Public  Health,  reported that,  in                                                               
2006, a  cessation benefit  had been  developed for  the Medicaid                                                               
population.    She  declared  that  access  to  all  FDA-approved                                                               
medications, "with 16 face to  face counseling sessions," and low                                                               
co-payments, had resulted  in 40 percent use of  the benefit, and                                                               
a smoking prevalence decrease of 10  percent.  She relayed that a                                                               
review  of  the claims  data  from  those smokers  utilizing  the                                                               
benefit  found  a  46  percent decrease  in  the  possibility  of                                                               
hospitalization for  heart attack  and a  49 percent  decrease in                                                               
the  probability  of  hospitalization for  acute  coronary  heart                                                               
disease.    She   directed  attention  to  a   recent  return  of                                                               
investment study  by George  Washington University  which applied                                                               
the findings of the aforementioned  Medicaid benefit.  The report                                                               
estimated that every  dollar spent for the benefit  resulted in a                                                               
$3.12 savings for decreased cardiac  hospitalization.  She opined                                                               
that this  was strong evidence  that encouraging smokers  to quit                                                               
could offset health care costs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:25:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  to   have  the  George  Washington                                                               
University study forwarded to the committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:25:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER asked to clarify the savings.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:26:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITHLY,  in response to Representative  Miller, replied that                                                               
the  savings   reflected  every  dollar  spent,   which  included                                                               
medications,  counseling,   promotion,  and  staff   time,  which                                                               
compared  to  the  costs  of  the  aforementioned  acute  cardiac                                                               
conditions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER summarized that "it was profitable."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:27:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  if the  counseling  sessions  were                                                               
local, or centralized, and if  the project paid the participants'                                                               
transportation costs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITHLY  replied that,  in Massachusetts,  transportation was                                                               
never considered  a cost.  She  reported that only 1  - 3 percent                                                               
of the claims  were for counseling, and the claims  could only be                                                               
submitted  if  the counseling  was  conducted  in a  hospital  or                                                               
community health setting.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  asked if the  program was provided by  a government                                                               
or a private insurance plan.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITHLY replied  that this was a Medicaid  program, which had                                                               
been mandated by the Massachusetts State Legislature.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:30:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  agreed to the  benefits for tobacco  cessation, but                                                               
acknowledged the question of who would pay for the program.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:30:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:30:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  asked if  a program benefit  would include                                                               
transportation for the tobacco counseling sessions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON offered  to  clarify this  in proposed  HB
209.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:31:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  asked if  other  private  medical insurance  would                                                               
cover counseling for similar programs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLEMENTS replied that she would research this.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  asked if  the  State  of Alaska  covered                                                               
tobacco cessation programs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLEMENTS  replied that she  would defer to the  Department of                                                               
Health and Social Services.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  asked if there  was medical insurance  coverage for                                                               
over the  counter medications.   Directing attention  to proposed                                                               
Section 2, he  offered his belief that lack of  a requirement for                                                               
pre-authorization  implied that  a  person "could  buy a  tobacco                                                               
cessation medication and  then just directly submit  the bill for                                                               
the coverage.  It just seems like that's out of the norm."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON replied that he would research this.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:35:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT,  directing  attention to  the  over  the                                                               
counter  medication,  asked if  cost  was  an issue  for  tobacco                                                               
cessation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLEMENTS replied that several  people had indicated that cost                                                               
was a primary impediment.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:35:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT asked  if there  was any  money from  the                                                               
1998  Tobacco  Master Settlement  Agreement  award  to offer  for                                                               
payment toward over the counter tobacco cessation products.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLEMENTS replied that she would research this.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:36:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER opened public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:36:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMIE  MORGAN,  Senior  Government Relations  Director,  American                                                               
Heart  Association  (AHA),  Western States  Affiliate,  testified                                                               
that  the  AHA  supported  proposed   HB  209.    She  said  that                                                               
addressing the  problem of  smoking was a  core component  of the                                                               
AHA mission,  and that "unrestricted access  to smoking cessation                                                               
treatment  dramatically  improves  the  success  of  the  patient                                                               
attempts, in  some cases  more than  a doubling  of the  odds for                                                               
successfully  quitting."   She reported  that after  one year  of                                                               
smoking cessation, the excess risk  of coronary disease caused by                                                               
smoking was reduced  by half, and after 15  years, these coronary                                                               
disease risks  were similar to those  who had never smoked.   She                                                               
stated that  smoking was the  leading cause of  preventable death                                                               
and a  major risk factor  for heart disease, stroke,  and cancer.                                                               
She  said that  unrestricted access  to evidence  based cessation                                                               
treatment lead to a greater  likelihood for successfully quitting                                                               
smoking.   She  offered her  belief  that proposed  HB 209  would                                                               
"mean  improved  public  health,   cost  reduction  for  treating                                                               
chronic  disease,  and  it will  result  in  widespread  economic                                                               
gain."  She urged support for proposed HB 209.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:38:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLER,   reflecting  that  many   ailments  were                                                               
negatively impacted  by tobacco  use, asked if  smoking increased                                                               
the incidence of miscarriages.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MORGAN replied that this was correct.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:40:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAT  REYNAGA, Nurse,  Lead  Advocacy  Volunteer, American  Cancer                                                               
Society, Cancer Action Network, stated  that "tobacco has had and                                                               
continues  to   have  devastating,  adverse  health   effects  on                                                               
Alaskans."  She  shared that in prior years,  the legislature had                                                               
supported  comprehensive programs,  and she  stated that  tobacco                                                               
cessation  coverage was  one of  the most  cost effective  health                                                               
insurance  benefits,   and  that  cessation  was   possible  with                                                               
evidence based programs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:41:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  asked how  many times  a smoker  would try  to quit                                                               
before success.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. REYNAGA  replied that there were  up to 10 attempts,  and she                                                               
pointed out  that 71 percent  of Alaskan adult smokers  wanted to                                                               
quit.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:42:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHEELA TALLMAN,  Premera Blue Cross, testified  that Premera Blue                                                               
Cross was  in opposition  to the current  proposed version  of HB
209.  She said that Premera  had submitted a letter outlining its                                                               
concerns,  and  offering  suggested amendments  to  the  proposed                                                               
bill.      She   reported   that   Premera   currently   provided                                                               
comprehensive  coverage  to  programs  focused  on  wellness  and                                                               
prevention.   She  relayed  that the  majority  of Premera  plans                                                               
covered tobacco  cessation counseling and treatment  programs, as                                                               
well as  certain prescription drugs.   She said that  the federal                                                               
Patient Protection and Affordable  Care law declared that insured                                                               
and self-insured  health plans  must include  preventive services                                                               
such as  tobacco cessation and  counseling without  cost sharing.                                                               
She  expressed  concern  that  the  proposed  bill  removed  cost                                                               
control tools such as prior  authorization.  She pointed out that                                                               
federal  law stated  that nothing  would  prohibit insurers  from                                                               
implementing reasonable  medical management techniques,  and that                                                               
the proposed bill went against this.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:45:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER asked for  specifics about the cost sharing                                                               
and cost control measures.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN, in  response, said that cost  sharing referenced any                                                               
out of pocket  cost to a member.  She  defined cost control tools                                                               
as   medical   management    techniques   which   included   pre-                                                               
authorization and frequency of services  and treatments, in order                                                               
for insurers to manage overall costs.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:47:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT asked if  insurance plans covered over the                                                               
counter drugs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TALLMAN  replied that  she  was  not  sure with  respect  to                                                               
smoking cessation.   She  offered her belief  that many  of these                                                               
could  also be  paid for  through health  care flexible  spending                                                               
accounts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:48:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  asked whether Premera supported  that the                                                               
proposed bill  contained no connection between  mandatory tobacco                                                               
cessation counseling and use of over the counter medications.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TALLMAN  replied that  the  majority  of the  Premera  plans                                                               
covered cessation counseling and treatment programs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT opined  that the  two should  go hand  in                                                               
hand.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:50:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[HB 209 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
02 Sponsor Statement HB 209.docx HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 209
HB209.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 209
HB209-DCCED-INS-12-28-11fiscasl note.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 209
04 Supporting Data Summary HB 209.docx HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 209
05 AK Tobacco Facts 2009 Update.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
06 Tobacco in the Great Land HB 209.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 209
07 HB209 American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 209
01 - HB 310 27-LS1273.A.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 310
02 - HB 310 sponsor statement 27-LS1273.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 310
2.5HB310-DHSS-EPI-2-10-12.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 310
03 - SB 144 Leg Legal Sectional Analysis (HB310 MODIFICATION HAS BEEN REQUESTED).pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 310
SB 144
04 - DHSSdph Epidemiology Bulletin 2010.10.06.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
4.5 - DHSSdph Epidemiology Bulletin 2010.10.19.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
05 - Alaska Health Care Commission 2011 Report exerpt.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
06 - HB 310 support letter Dr. Rosalyn Singleton.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 310
07 - HB 310 support letter PremeraBCBS.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 310
08 - HB 310 support letter Dr. Mary Ann Jacob.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 310
Amendment HB 209.pdf HHSS 2/14/2012 3:00:00 PM
HB 209